Why do some people believe that Homelander would be no match for Superman or Thor?

All right so, Homelander vs Thor: Homelander is overwhelemd as he is not used to actually fighting beings even near his power let alone above it, Thor is way more than storefront in terms of both the electrical powers and Durability. Homelander will likely fly away similar to when he got jumped by Billy and Soulja boy, but unlike Billy and SB, Thor can fly, so he swings monjir or windbreaker and goes after him, homelander is spamming his laser vision which only seems to slow Thor down, similar to throwing knives at batman. It does nothing and Thor uses his speed to catch Homelander slam him into the earth and shake the core with America's son.

Strengths/advantages: Public Influence, Money, Backed by Vought , Master Munipulator, pains me to admit but bro is kinda smart, Can let go of personal ties to eliminate emotional weakness, Vought has like a monopoly over every area of sales(meaning like the TV networks,movie company's, Amusement parks, pharmicutical, sports wear, toys, fucking water bottles , food, lip balm etc) meaning homelander has reach in those department, His Intel team with Vought, Noir, deep, and A-train, be doing his biding cuz the some kisss asses his papi is Soulja boy, so in theroy he could jump some ppl. (Btw keep in mind this is a list of the things the have in like ‘prime’(get it?)best case scenario, overall strength through out the on screen shit, so it ignors like if they lost an advantage in different movie/series) hope that makes sense.Vought internatinal is Richer than Wayne interprise or whatever so if he got all vought money he would have more than if batman gave supes all his.

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Strentght/advantages:hammers only work for him(maybe superman?). The avengers(og 6 + black panther, Vision, Wanda, falcon, warmachiene, Ant/spider man) altogter are more versatile and cordinated although probably weaker than the seven and JL if it wasn't for hulk and Thor, Because of his Royal Family, as well as Stark and maybe even BP he has probably as much if not more money/financal support than Vought, has more experience than even HL because of being 160000 yrs old, Can actually fight, were as HL and SM both mainly just punch,Lazer and zoom thier way through shit, Thor trained with mojnir and his dad as a king Of a badass army so he definitely recives more training, also he really doesn't hold back that often so idk.

Feats:Defeated Zod, a highly trained Soulja with the same power set, Caught the flash, Darkside, stepinstollf and doomsday all for the most part got whooped, is stronger and faster than the whole JL(on par with noob flash.) Stopped the invosion in montroplis single handedly(different feat then killin zod). Split the mother box, Lifted up a sky scraper, Survived quit a few incounters with pure green Kryptonite, Some how screamed loud enough for Amazon primioms and Posidons grand babys to hear miles opon miles away, Maintained a secret identity for quite sometime (this is impressive as both MCU and The Boys ‘heros’ give up on secret identity as they are too hard to keep especially when u live in public eye cuz of super heroing, also in both universes supes are basically celebs) the list goes on and on so I think we should leave it at that.

Powers:Super Strength, super speed flight with one of the two hammers, Super human Stamina, Durability, Healing factor, Lightning projection, Storm projection, Control over weather? Can jump really, really high even with out hammers, Hammers that he can shoot blast with as well as use as super eletricaly charged Weopans that he can throw and summon back.

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Feats:Almost killing Thanos,Over powering infinity gauntlet, Going toe to toe and almost beating hulk on multiple occasions, Piloting a random ass plane thing, Absolutely destroying outriders and there ships, Taking down that weird robot thing from Thor 1, Fighting and Surving surtor, Hela, Loki, hulk, and that big ah wolf all without hammer(not all at once but still) Defeating Zeus,Catching Zuesus lighting bolt to begin with, Defeating Gorr, Surviving The star on Nevadalir, Defeating a large group of highly trained shield agents while on a subbatical from being Thor, I forgot how or why but Defeating that weird dude from the dark world, Slamming his OG hammer into Joutenhum hard enough to shake the planet (Joutenhum>Earth) Was a major factor in the citari attack on NYC in Avengers 2012, Restied the bifrost, broke the rainbow bridge, Age of Ultron battle, destroying the air city thing, again it goes on and on so ima move on

Strengths/advantages: Can remain clear headed in battle, Dosnt really care about public image, Unlike homelander works well with others, can see through all metal, is actually a good person so has nothing to hide(alright then why the fuck does klark Kent still exist?). Media influence through clak Kent, Idk.

Superman: What the hell? Copycat? I don't even know you.

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Skills:some Asgardian fighting style, Speaks groot, resilience, pursaverince, Battle stratige, Intelligence do to being 160000 yrs old or some shit, Weopans training, Can cause distractions to delay the enemie(as seen Avengers 2 with Ultron, and thor3 with surtur.) Is on avengers. Piloting space craft/warships/jets.

HL: *with lasers in his eyes* I don't think I like your tone! not very much! He says and then sees the man of steel has the same laser vision threating thing in his eyes where they are about to laser each other.

Feats: Surving Suped up Billy, Soulja boy, A weird nervous moist hand ass boy who just so happens to have powers via tempiary SUPA SOULJA SERUM, Manges to stay in the public good graces after: fucking hitlers ex, Killing a dude broad day who was no harm to him or Ryan cuz the can't fucking die, killing that girl on his annual bday save, Snapping and lashing out claiming he just like that and everyone else is fucking slow and weak on live TV. Turning compound V, Stillwell and Stormfrucks betrayal as well as flight 180 into a dub, Catching up to and downing a plane, Opening said planes doors mid flight, Throwing baseballs into the sadaasphere, Safely delivering Billy and StillwellJr from like enough TNT to make Roadrunner stop meep meepin, Taking essentially complete and total control over Vought internatinal, Making everybody uncomfortable in universe and out, There is more but most of his feats aren't physical lol.

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Weakness: Chessse whiz? Arrogants, ignorance,rushing into battle half assed, Idk to me he really dosnt have a clear weakness comment what you think.

Skills: Scary because of mental illness and instability, Public manipulation, acting skills, criminal blackmail, experienced in mass genocide, leader of the #1 supe team in universe da s7ven.

Tldr; Thor will obliterate Homelander and Superman will embarrass him and if he continues Superman would also obliterate him. That being said Homelander is strong enough that even if it was him who decided to conquer earth or Superman or Thor we would likely be screwed Superman and Thor would just be faster. Homelander is only strong compared to humans, when compared to most of fiction tho he is weak especially thor and Superman two of the strongest heroes in fiction, excuse my writing style i was trying to be funny and not taking it seriously as this is a silly question

Hi everybody! I have been looking at posts on narcs and narc abuse on here and if has really helped me out a lot. I am currently struggling with my situation and need some advice/support. I met a narc last year, everything seemed to good to be true. Love bombing, always texting calling and taking me on dates. Everything changed when someone warned me about him out in public in front of him and who he is. This caused a conflict with us and the love bombing seized. he would tell me that everything is okay and i can come and talk. He would set a time limit on me and kick me out after that. he would then text me like everything was fine and we hung out again and after that he completely ghosted me for one week. He came back and texted me a week later laughing about the ghosting and acting like nothing had happened. he continued to text me ( not like in the beginning) make plans with me, then on the day of the plans he would just ghost me. One day he would act interested the next silence. i contacted him a month later and he acted like nothing happened. He was on a vacation and sent me a picture of another woman ( someone he allegedly met on the trip) to strike a reaction but i never gave him one. After the trip he came to my place and was extremely rude, accusing me of going on dates with a bunch of men. The next day he accused me of being an alcoholic and that he wanted nothing to do with me but said well maybe we can be "friends" then ghosted me i assumed at this point it was over and i would never hear from him again. He contacted me on the holiday a month later acting like everything was great. We ended up hanging out a month or so later and when we hung out it went well, i thought things were going in the right direction. after we hung out.. silence. I would try to text him and if he replied it would be very short then he just stopped replying. He ghosted me for almost three months. I thought he was done this time and of course he popped up again like nothing happened. At this point i was getting sick of if so i questioned him as to why he dissapeared and always does this. Of course he had some sob story about a injury and family member dying of cancer. I felt pity for him and he gave me an apology.. so i took him back stupidly. things seemed to be going smooth for a couple months, of course until his family member died and his injury got better he never contacted me and was distant. Menawhile, i was there for him during the difficult time for him. He lied to me about the funeral and never wanted to chat. I was chasing him and he would always claim nothing was wrong but when i said i thought he used me when he was down he could not handle it and would always tell me he didnt care and to go away. I would get so upset i would try texting him to work it out he would barelt respond and if he did he would not be nice about it. we did hang out a couple times after that, he would ignore me after. One day i was like hey i think you are seeing someone else, and i was like well ixam seeing someone so no problem if you are he said " buy bye good luck with your new guy stop contacting me" i was devastated and tried to get into contact with him for weeks then i just gave up and accepted it was over. He ended up contacting me a month later acting like everything was fine. He wanted to go out and have drinks i told him i would. He and i both seemed to have a great time. He ends up ignoring me again. I kept texting him trying to figure out what was wrong. He kept saying everything was fine and i said ok can we hang out again? He said maybe i was like why? He just kept saying maybe … our last conversation we had… i said what is wrong ? He said nothing is wrong everything is fine. I asked him why he keeps saying maybe. He said " maybe but i dont want to see you right now" i said why? He saix " im just not feeling it, if i wanted to date i would" i said why did you contact me less then a week ago wanting to go out? He said i didnt.. even though he did. So i said should i just move on or what? He said whatever you want to do. So i said that he was really confusing me and asked him if he had anything more to say before i move on? My messages were turning green so i panicked he blocked me and reacted irrationally. I said " omg did you block me? My messages are not going through. Even texted him on my work phone asking what was up. And called him twice ( please dont judge me i know it is pathetic i never was this type of girl before him) so he replied and said " Ok I'll block you now" then immedietly blocked me. He has never blocked me before since I have met him he will just ghost. Is this ths final discard aka " grand finale? Did i just push him too far? this has upset me so much its hard to even function.

Have you seen the boys or any Thor/supermanmovies or at least a movie that includes them? Read the comics at least?(to be fair comics very to much so I'ma base of show and MCU/DCEU) ok so let's look at the skills, powers, feats, strength weaknesses of all starting with the main boy himself sup-i mean:homelanda

Homelander: Bullshit! Everybody knows me. I am THE HOMELANDER!! You show an ileaterate hajib in the desert my picture he is going to turn to you and say “Homelander” in perfect American.

Superman: Okay, it's not ringing any bells but ok.

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Powers: Supa sonic Flight, Supa strength, (idk how if he runs or flys but?)Speed,Lazer eyezzzz, invenrability and neigh industructibility,X-ray vision, Supa hearing ,Money

Last but certainly not least the god of thunder himself (TF?thunders the noise) Thor:

Homepander vs The og. Supman

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Weakness: Martha, Louis Lane, For Clouser, Cares a lot about innocent life so they could be held at ransom, He struggles with his human side so he often holds back (in DCEU he mostly fights OP villains but I'm sure if that version of superman had more villains like in comics he would hold back, especially with humans like an actual lex luthor.) Theatrical cut, still relatively new to the game compared to Homelander with at least 15–30 years of experience supes only has around 5(to be nice) oh I almost forgot…….krypt………onian parents jk Kryptonite.

HL shoots his laser vision at super man but before it even hits him supman tackles homelander through the window behind him, to prevent him from blowing up a whole city block, superman takes him to the antarctic place where the Fortress of salutiude be. Homelander falls to the ground something supes knows he can handle, he saw this man's bones the are 30% as dense as his while a normal humans is only 4%. Homelander looks up at the man of steel, and says “who do you think you are?” And superamn smirks slightly, “well apparently I am too much for you to handle” Homelander stands up and yells “No, I am too much for you!! I am not like you, i am stronger, faster, smarter. I am better. I AM BETTER!! Superam laughs and flys away. HL dosent botther following supes is leagues above him and he knows and excepts this for now.

Skills: Incognito mode, Heavily influencing plot, pretty good at fighting, Not staying dead, Manataing humility, Stoping bad guys, On the only superteam in universe JustUs League, timing his entrances to battles in sync with plot convinence. Stoping alien invasions.

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Homelander: Who the hell are you? Ashley did you approve this, copycat? I specifically told you only I can but new heros in the line up. Not you.

POWERS:DID u read home lamnders power set? Near light speed flight, Almost infinite strength, Lazer eyes, basically can't die(especially if Zacks Snyder can help it). Super hearing, UNRESTRICTRD!!! XRAY(Yes I'm still on about HL not seeing through zinc) Breathing, eating, water all seem to be optional. Super death screams? Is very skilled and talented at completely, convinceably, inexplicably, going into incognito mode Irl.(yes I'ma keep on.)

Weakness: Cant see through Goddamn zinc(litarley why?), Mentally and emotional Unstable, Unable to contain anger/ any emotion thus he ends up killing his most useful and trust worthy teammates(cough, cough noir, stillwell, supersonic, off brand DareDevil.) Ok some are more resonable than others like supersonic was a threat to HL’s power. Pathologically self absorbed, Cares too much about public image and attention, God Complex(for whatever reason he don't see the fact that litarley and body else could and should have been chosen.) Cringe. He is ehiter terrifying or socially awkward(ik irrelevant but😂😂true) can't really fight, he is also a p***y.

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